The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report.
Welcome, welcome, welcome! Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Great to be together.
What a day. Holy cow! What a day. Donald Trump, indicted. Uh, indicted for something related to the boxes that he kept at Mar-a-lago, we’ll talk about that in a moment. Um, probably going to be indicted in other places at this point. I mean, we’ve raced To the bottom of what is I think, reasonable in this country. We are at a very, very dangerous time.
I don’t usually say that. I know other people have said things like that. It’s a dangerous time and all that I usually don’t say that. But it’s a dangerous time and we’ll get into that.
In a few moments actually, we’ll talk with a friend of mine. I’ve been looking forward to this interview with him. His name is Scott Bloch, Scott Block, and it’s a fitting. That I’m interviewing, I’m interviewing him today. It’s been a long time coming. Scott Block is a lawyer. He’s from Kansas. Originally. He came out in 2001 or 2. To work in the Bush administration, W Bush. In the Office of faith-based, Office of Faith-Based, what was it, policies? And and it. Was something that George W Bush. Put a lot of stock in and and and this man Scott Bloch. It was a prominent, successful lawyer, a very Catholic guy, a convert to Catholicism and well liked by people. So he was. Out here and did that. Then they have this special thing called the special counsel’s office. And it’s a kind of ombudsman for the federal government. And he was appointed to be special counsel. It’s a whole set of people. It’s independent from the government, formally from the structure. It’s meant to. Be like a watchdog and he was a watchdog. Now he got In trouble when he was Asked if he had been doing partisan politics, he got in trouble with Congress and ended up pleading guilty to a misdemeanor for not Properly working with Congress, contempt of Congress and and he got like a a rap on the tap on the wrist for it. But he also got himself crossways with Karl Rove, who said he was actually doing too much, and so he ended up being pushed out of that job. And my point in telling you all that is to tell you that. He has been at the forefront of sort of the battle between publicly taking on forces. He was kind of cancelled by Karl Rove and the group. Now at the time, Karl Rove was powerful and popular. Now it looks like Karl Rove and his crew had done a lot of things that made a lot of Americans say go to war. Not for totally honest reasons, et cetera, et cetera. So the world turned upside down anyway, Scott Bloch. He wrote a book about his experience. He wrote a novel that captures, in some ways the experience that he had in college, where he became a Christian. Ultimately, Catholic and a great guy. So we’ll talk with him. His book is called Mount Wonder, and he’ll have a perspective both on being canceled, being crossways with the powerful and all. But let’s get to what you need to know today.
What you need to know today is. I would be sad. If I were not a little bit frightened. And that’s because we’re now reaching the point where. The government is using its power against we the people.
It’s been abusing its power in the situation related to January 6th. The whole time. It’s been deceptive about what happened. It’s been dramatic and and over the top and how it depicts it, how it characterizes Things. It’s been abusing and on my opinion the process not to say that some people didn’t do something wrong. You don’t get to hit a cop during a riot and say ohh well the riot was started by some of the undercover cops. Although it appears to be so, you know. In other words, entrapment.
You don’t get to plead entrapment defense if you do something that’s different than the entrapment. So if I’m if I’m a a famous case, the ABSCAM case where there was some. Was it a senator? A senator, who is accepting a bribe, and the person who was giving the bribe, was an agent, and I think that the argument was it was entrapment because the the federal, a law enforcement agent was saying, hey, take this bribe. And when you took the bribe, you committed a crime; that’s different than a federal agents being on the grounds of the Capitol and citing a riot. And then during the riot, you hit a cop. Because that hitting a cop is a different crime. Anyway, my point here is what we don’t know is how many federal agents were at the Capitol on January 6. We don’t know how many undercover agents we don’t know how many full time agents. We don’t know how many, what they call informants or human sources or whatever these are. We don’t know anything because we’ve been stonewalled. By our government. We don’t.
We had the people that are in jail for January 6 treated like they were Al Qaeda, as opposed to American citizens again. Again, innocent until proven guilty, held in jail, largely because of sets of laws that were designed for something other than what they’re being used now. To make things that were a misdemeanor and therefore something you go home and come back to go on trial, they made it into a felony and held people for two and a half years. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Torturous conditions, torturous charaterizations. The United States House of Representatives under Congressman Benny Thompson going out and saying, These people are evil. Spending $20 million, nearly $20 million, let’s say confirmed. 14 million, but it looks like closer to 20 million on a Select Committee on January 6th.
That was not just a show trial, it was actually a way to hide the evidence because when it was over, The Select Committee of Benny Thompson, the Democrat Congressman and Republican Liz Cheney sent the documents from that Select Committee to the White House or to the archives, and you can’t see them, and neither can the current Congress. So they hid what they say they found.
We don’t know what they looked for, but we know they didn’t find the pipe bomber who planted a an actual pipe bomb. It was an assassination attempt at the largest political headquarters of the two major parties in the world in the greatest country on Earth, and we haven’t found anything, and the Select Committee didn’t even look. They didn’t ask questions. They didn’t get to the bottom of it. They didn’t get to the bottom of most of the stuff. And so here we are.
And now we have the Federal Department of Justice indicting the leading candidate for President, Donald Trump, for something related not to an actual crime. But to what they say he did when they asked about the crime. You get that? There is no crime regarding classified documents because Donald Trump, just like Obama, just like Clinton, just like Reagan, just like Bush, Bush. They as president, you’re allowed to do whatever you want in terms of declassifying. You’re not allowed to do it if you’re Vice President Pence, Vice President Biden. Secretary of State Clinton, Hillary Clinton, you’re not allowed to. In other words, the actual authority to classify or declassify rests with the President. Ultimately, that’s the law. And so there cannot. Be a crime. As to the classified documents, except now there’s a crime as to whether you obstructed the investigation into something that couldn’t be a crime. You see it? You see what’s going on. It’s a little bit like you’re. You’re being arrested, not for walking through the capital and being nonviolent, not for standing in front of the capital and being nonviolent on January 6th. Not for tweeting loud mouthed comments before January 6th. No, you’re being actually you’re being arrested. Sorry, you’re being held for the felony obstruction of an official proceeding, which is not something that’s been used that way.
But it’s a hook. You see, it’s a hook.
It’s even worse with Trump actually, to be honest. We are racing to the bottom. We are racing to the bottom of this, and this is absolutely, positively. The low point in American Public life as to our justice system. It can’t get worse because we’re using the legal system, lawfare against political opponents and blatantly so.
And here’s how it how tricky how. How well done it is, clever, evil.
How do you think Donald J Trump could get an impartial jury, a jury that would adjudicate this impartially on the facts and on the law when the entire culture, big tech, big media, big government? The narrative machine has been pounding the message that he’s guilty, and I gotta tell you, more Americans than not. If you go out and say, hey so and so’s been indicted by a grand jury, they’d say. Well, he must have done something. They wouldn’t do that if he hadn’t done something. That’s the kind of American instinct, and it’s the opposite.
Distrust and verify is the is the operation. You have to have that as the operating, it’s not trust and verify. It’s not the old days where he said well, if the federal prosecutor indicts someone, the federal prosecutors are really the sort of the really talented, the cream of the crop, you know. You know, if you’re a state prosecutor, you might be pretty good. But if you’re a federal prosecutor, those are the guys that are smart, gals that are smart. It has to be the opposite. You actually have to say at this point you cannot trust. Any of these institutions.
And here’s the thing, when you do this to our people, when you do this to our justice system, it’s actually a self perpetuating problem. Now, because you can’t trust the institution, therefore the institution acts worse and we’re racing down to the bottom. And it gets worse and worse. I’m not sad. I’m not sad. I’m actually a little frightened. And I just texted someone. I’m not that frightened because I have trust in God. God’s in charge. God’s in charge. You know, God’s in charge and you just gotta know that you gotta be like, OK, it’s it’s. It’s going to be. What it’s going to be.
But we have to fight for what makes this place wonderful this country. We’ll be hearing more about it.
Alright, we’ll take a break. And come back. We’ll talk with Scott Bloch. Long interview. I’m gonna. Do a double interview with him. I hope we’ll see How we do. I think he’ll be great. He’s a very bright guy, Scott Bloch in a moment, Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report back in a moment.